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Persistent group chat seems like a good idea, most people agree. I am just slightly confused as IRC and even jabber have been there for a long time. And they have solved their problem domains. I guess there is a very limited use of group chat in corporate world. Most important decisions are not spontaneous. People need time to think, strategize and organize thoughts. Email is better suited for this purpose.

Persistent group chat is nothing more than reply-all on emails !! A fancy version none-the-less and another name for unwanted spam. If there are 10 ppl on discussion, its never important. Important message to 10 or more people is announcement. Else, is a water cooler conversation. My $0.02


Thanks for your graph, Bob. It's very helpful to understand the whole idea. I would have some issues in the relative position between blogs, wikis and e-mail and how dynamics they could be with an enhanced use.
As I am engineer as well, and you know we like graphs, have a look to mine here: http://thebestofenterprise20.blogspot.com/2007/05/landscape-overview-of-enterprise-20.html

Radha Krishnan

Is persistence always desirable.

A topic arises, interested group of people comment, and analyze. The object of such expressions / communications should be to arrive at some conclusion or inference.

The time spent on interactions and the date on which a final summary is drawn is an index of relevance, as the context is dynamic and will keep changing. The persistence achieved through the documentation loses its significance, in course of time as the context changes.
The big question is who should impartially conclude and post the findings - the one who started the stream or an elected member from the participants?
The question raised here is Persistence or Objective analysis?
This question itself may be wrong as each posting, by itself, is an opinion attempting a finale, to be the last word on the topic. Wrong comments are the right way to stimulate and strengthen a discussion.


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The best executive is one who has sense enough to pick good people to do
what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with
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-- Theodore Roosevelt



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I've enjoyed reading the reactions to Bob's comment's about Obama's connection to deliberative politics and his references to the "common good." A recent New Yorker piece takes a similar position and contrasts Obama's "deliberative" style with Clinton's penchant for partisanship: See George Packer's "The Choice" in THE NEW YORKER (Jan 28, 08).

In these discussions about Obama, Democrats, and the common good, it is important to remember that
Michael Tomasky got the Democrats back on to the language of the "common good" with his article, "Party in Search of a Notion," from THE AMERICAN PROSPECT (April 2006).

This talk of the common good, from Tomasky's perspective may be completely in line with partisan politics and need not be identified with deliberation. See Tomasky's review of Krugman's new book, "The Partisan," in the NEW YORK REVIEW OF BOOKS (54:18 Nov 22, 07).

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Just working through some notes on ethics and social networks and I thought I'd share the following paragraph that I've been working on - because it seems counter-intuitive at first.

There is a growing consensus that comments posted in social networks are not ‘in the public domain’ and that researchers should seek permission to use them. Researchers should also remember that because the internet is so readily searchable, they should avoid using literal quotes from social network discussions (in most cases) as this will potentially reveal who the respondent is.

In many codes of ethics and in a growing number of laws, the intention/expectation of the person making a post is important in determining what can be done with that post. In terms of privacy there are two issues. The first is that if a researcher has to join a network to see the post, then the person making the post is doing so in the expectation that they are talking to genuine members of the community, not to professional researchers or journalists. The second that is when somebody makes, say, 200 posts in their status bar over the course of a year, they did not have the expectation that all their quotes would be brought back together as a single corpus for investigation.

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ust working through some notes on ethics and social networks and I thought I'd share the following paragraph that I've been working on - because it seems counter-intuitive at first.

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